Episode 11: When You Love Somebody

Hailey panics when Jason skips one of her appointments at the clinic.

23 Responses to “Episode 11: When You Love Somebody”

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  2. Just Jane Doe says:

    I’m taking a new approach – addressing this as if it were an actual reality show, as if the women could see what we’re saying, and take it to heart. Here’s what I want to say to Hailey.

    Oh Hailey,

    How difficult it must be, to suddenly be facing this decision alone, when you’ve relied on Jason for so much. I’m so sorry you’re in this position.

    You asked Dr Patterson about making right decisions, and he told you it can be difficult. He’s right, it’s difficult. And sometimes, there isn’t really a “right decision” because every choice seems to contain a little bit of right, and a little bit of wrong. No one is ever ready to make those sorts of decisions. No one ever wants to make them. But sometimes, the responsibility falls to us, and we make the best decision we can.

    Making the best decision means using all of the tools at our disposal. One tool is talking to people who care about us and who are involved, like Jason. Another tool is talking with people who can provide us with objective opinions and information, like Dr Patterson, or a counselor. Logic is a powerful tool, that you’ve mentioned, too. And Jason has helped you with that one. You’ve done all of those things, and that’s good.

    But Hailey, you seem to be dismissing a very important tool… yourself. Your emotions, your feelings, what *you* believe and need and want. These things are part of the picture, a valuable part. You see your emotional nature as a negative, when it may well be one of your strengths. Don’t be so eager to dismiss that, in favor of pure logic. How sad the world would be if we only made logical choices!

    To make the best of these difficult decisions, we have to balance logic and emotion, outside information and our own internal insights.

    It’s that balance of logic and emotion, of balanced insight, that will make you a good nurse. And it’s that balance that will help you make the best decision you can, now, too. You are smart enough for this, Hailey. You’re smart enough for this to be YOUR choice. I don’t really know you, but somehow I believe in you.

    Just Jane Doe

    • Dear Just Jane Doe,

      I like your response here. Many people think they are supposed to just deny or ignore the emotions. Actually, the emotions are a powerful gift and part of who we are, part of what makes us human. On the other extreme, many people try to live only by their emotions without using their intelligence to make reasonable choices. We all need that balance you describe between our intelligence and our emotions.

      Hailey, it is OK for you to be feeling what you are feeling right now. Your emotions are trying to send you an important message. Listen to them. Respect them. It is possible to listen to your emotions and still use your intelligence to make a decision.

  3. I’d really like to see the side of Jason that’s more loving and caring. It seems as if he’s a scared kid that’s trying to be a man. When he’s saying that he’s the one to save Hailey from himself, I think it’s bravado. He needs her and is afraid that she doesn’t need him anymore. He’s giving her space to try to get her to come clinging to him again.

  4. I am not really sure if Jason is really trying to grow up in this episode and give Hailey the space she needs, or if he is trying to manipulate her into having the abortion by forcing her into the “baby or Jason” kind of scenario that she was asked about by the producers in an earlier episode. This was an interesting episode.

  5. Just Jane Doe says:

    So many people seem angry at Jason for backing off to give Hailey space, yet after every other episode, people *wanted* him to back off and give her space. Honestly, I think he’s getting a bit of unfair treatment, here in the comments.

    This isn’t remotely the same situation as Denise and Buzz; there’s no reason to believe Jason is abusive or even uncaring- in fact, Hailey’s in-his-face confidence when she’s angry at him (calling names and kicking water at him) suggests she’s definitely not afraid of him. And it’s not so much that he’s not listening to or valuing her thoughts, as that she’s just not sharing them.

    Yes, Jason is immature, but so is Hailey. Look at how she barged into the exam room impulsively, and didn’t even acknowledge the doctor when he tried to tell her she can’t do that. She’s still every bit as self-involved as Jason is, and maybe more so.

    Yes, Jason seems to make most of their decisions, but she actively and aggressively looks to him in that role. I haven’t seen him blame her for the pregnancy, so we don’t know how he feels on that count – but as for the falling in the hole-she-knows-is-there analogy, she’s had what, 3 previous abortions? I know contraception fails, but 4 times, as young as she is? Regardless of what Jason thinks or how poorly he said it, she obviously has been irresponsible when it comes to sex.

    I do see him being frustrated with her, because he thought they had an agreement, but she seems to be changing her mind, and she *hasn’t* been talking to him about what she’s thinking. Because she’s had multiple abortions before, and clearly showed no guilt about them, he would have no way of guessing that she might feel differently about this pregnancy unless she says so. He seems understandably frustrated to me – and the way he’s talking about her reflects that, along with his overall immaturity, not a lack of concern for her or their future.

    And several people have said things to the effect of “He doesn’t really love her.”

    But *Hailey* is the one telling the doctor that they don’t have a good emotional connection, that she is with him because she likes how he helps her make decisions.

    Mind you, I don’t like defending Jason. He’s annoyed me from the first episode. But I don’t think the judgments being made about him are fair, I don’t think the show has treated him fairly, either. The producer hasn’t been tactful or respectful when she wanted to speak and film Hailey separately. In fact, they’ve been rude, and seem to be barely tolerating him as a sort of side-show, as if his life doesn’t have the potential to be profoundly affected by Hailey’s decision. And while maybe he wanted to go on the show with his own future in acting in mind – he *is* there, which is more than a lot of partners are.

    Ok. My rant aside, whatever they decide about the pregnancy and their relationship, one thing seems clear… they’re both going to be changed by this experience, and hopefully, both will do a lot of growing up in a very short time.

    • Just Jane Doe says:

      Oops. Guess I wrote a novel.
      So what do you all think Jason’s role in this *should* be?

  6. Maria Rose says:

    Jason certainly knows Hailey well, he nails her every reaction. And he doesn’t seem all that comfortable with backing off and giving her space, it seems difficult for him. I just can’t get past the falling in a hole analogy; he seems to be saying that she carries the sole responsiblity for her pregnancies. Last time I checked it still took two. This is a recurring theme in our contraceptive culture: the woman gets pregnant, the man gets mad. Contraception fails, it’s her fault. The sexual revolution that promised women so much freedom has in reality taken something that was precious – a woman’s sexuality – and made it cheap, while piling yet another burden onto her shoulders. And she’s too blind to see it.

    • Debra says:

      Very good insight Maria Rose… however, I’m going to wait and see…The fact that he was willing to give her space is giving me hope. I think with more conversation perhaps he will show us that he is capable and willing to grow. It’s reasurring that he started his video interview saying that he loves her and she ended her voice mail with “lets talk…I love you.” I believe their love is genuine and I’m pleased that she is willing to COMMUNICATE. I think they both have the potential of learning something meaningful. However, we must wait to see what he does while he is giving her space (perhaps it was HE who needed the space); and let’s see what She does with this time alone.

      Another positive sign is that She has realized something new, that is, HE doesn’t fill the emotional SPACE that she needs and is able to communicate that…and He sounds as if he’s realized something new, that is, SHE doesn’t fulfill the logical space that he needs.–I hope they can find eachother somewhere in the middle, because I haven’t given up on them, yet!

    • Anon says:

      Well said, Maria Rose!

  7. shanea says:

    He is just doing this to her becouse he does not wunt the baby and she does and he is hoping that doing this will make her chose to have the abortion when it comes time to make that chose and i dont thank that is right for him to this to her. but there is also a pont to what he is doing to her. If she keeps the baby he will probley leave her. and that is wrong

  8. Michelle says:

    It’s a shame that this new video player does not work as well as the previous one used; the video was extremely choppy and did not follow the voice track!

    I am glad that Jason is giving Hayley some space, she really needs it. I hope that when she knows what is the right move to take, he will let her use his opinion too because the baby is not just her responsibility- it’s theirs.

  9. Emma says:

    It’s obvious from the way Jason talks about Hailey that he doesn’t truly love her. He all but says that he thinks she’s naive and stupid. She may fall in “the hole” sometimes, but at least she’s following her heart when she does it. If he truly loved her, he wouldn’t mind helping her through her struggles. I think Hailey would be a wonderful mother, but she should be prepared for things to be very ugly for a while between Jason and herself is she chooses to keep the baby.

  10. Kathleen says:

    I also love her purse.

  11. Kathleen says:

    I think that her boyfriend has a point. . . he’s not goign about it in the right way clearly. He seems to need her to need him on the one hand and on the other to want her to be her own person and on the latter I totally agree with him. She needs to be her own person to know who she is rather than be codependent on a relationship with any one else.

  12. Myrtle says:

    Hailey needs to make whatever decision is best for herself regardless of what Jason thinks. He says he loves her and that he will support whatever decision she makes, but he has also made it very clear at this point that he will really only support her if she choses abortion. Even after she makes the decision he wants there could be huge ramifications for their relationship. Hailey seems to want to keep the baby. She is going to be a nurse so she probably is naturally a very nurturing person. She will likely regret the abortion and start to feel resentful of Jason for making her do it. This relationship will not last, no matter what decision she makes.
    I relate to Hailey so much because it was not long ago that I was in her exact position. My boyfriend at the time said that he loved me and would support any decision I made regarding the pregnancy. He also made it quite clear that he wanted me to have an abortion. I did not really want to do it, but I also did not want to “ruin his life” like he told me I would if i kept the baby. I was young and codependent so I did what he told me to. When I got home from the abortion I received a text from him breaking up with me. Now I am stuck living with the guilt and regret from my decision. This is a decision that will stay with her for the rest of her life, so she needs to think not only about the effects it will have on her immediate life but what decision she will be able to live with long term.

    • Maria Rose says:

      Oh, Myrtle, I am so sorry for what you have gone through! I’ve often suspected that a very large percentage of women “choose” abortion because they are pressured by men. The abortion isn’t really for the woman’s convenience, it’s for his.

      And we call this “freedom”.

    • shiloh says:

      Wow! What a disgusting human being that ex boyfriend was!

  13. MMS says:

    Ok I know this is totally unrelated to the show… but I love Hailey’s purse in this episode! Does anyone know what kind/brand it is or where to possibly find one to buy?

  14. Deborah says:

    Hailey is so interesting! I think one option she should seriously consider is adoption. I think this option has been neglected on the show, even if it seems to fall under ‘keep’ the baby. This could give her a way to make a serious decision without guilt and with the possibility of playing some role in her child’s life later, when she’s more mature.

  15. pamo56 says:

    This is soooooo good….PLEASE make them longer!!!! I am hooked. Great writing and great acting!